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Dr Axler
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Posted - 2008.12.26 13:53:00 -
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change the eula to allow searching through the clients ram. then make a simple application that starts with eve online (in the background. 99% of players wont know about it) which looks for third party applications. flag such accounts and ban once a month.
lose a ****load of subscribers, and go bankrupt...
macrominers support the eve economy with the basic ore atm. they are also the reason why the mining profession sucks atm. CCP should deal with this very carefully.
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Posted - 2008.12.26 14:23:00 -
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 Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Dr Axler
change the eula to allow searching through the clients ram.
This would be the day I would cancel my account. What I am doing besides playing EVE is my business alone.
if it includes third party applications for macroing then it is not your business alone.
though i agree, but it is a price i would be willing to pay to get rid of macroers...\
it is true, they probably will find a way around it, but there will be less of them.
i remember reading about it, not sure what year it was. blizzard did something like this and banned thousands of accounts (half of the eve player base).
im not sure if i would do it. that is still a big number of accounts which pay the monthly fee. and that fee allows for better servers, and better services...
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Posted - 2008.12.26 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Abulurd Boniface
Don't put the onus on me, the honest player, put the onus on the people who break the system.
Abulurd Boniface
ME ME
CEO
in order to see who breaks the system you must check everyone. so by letting ccp scan everyone's PCs, only those actually breaking would be affected.
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Posted - 2008.12.26 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Gadwad
WOW still has a LOT of botters.
wrong, wow has less botters.
although that is still allot yes :)
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Posted - 2008.12.26 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Billy Sastard
Originally by: Dr Axler
Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Dr Axler
change the eula to allow searching through the clients ram.
This would be the day I would cancel my account. What I am doing besides playing EVE is my business alone.
if it includes third party applications for macroing then it is not your business alone...
And what if I am not using the macroing software for EVE, but for some mundane work related stuff, then I cannot play the game? There are too many situations where people completely innocent of cheating would get burned here.
it doesn't look for all macros. it looks for very specific software. it doesn't even ban all botters, just those using software the company which made the game decided isn't legal. (although, as someone pointed out, on the example of the warden, there were a few bugs:) )
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Posted - 2008.12.26 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy
what? thats easy to get around!
All you have to do is use a OCR program to identify the characters to type.
Use a catcha? one problem: some of these exist that get 80% accuracy or more on catchas.
yes, that is exactly true. OCR bots can even avoid being caught by the ram searching application as they do not need to fiddle with ram, just look at your screen. however OCR bots are allot harder to make and there is allot less of them.
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Posted - 2008.12.26 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: GateScout
Edited by: GateScout on 26/12/2008 16:23:31
Think of EVE not as your personal game, but as a business.
What makes sense to you from a business stand point? Would the cost of implementing anti-macro code and removing macros from the game (perhaps, as you're not sure to eliminate them) boost your revenue? Would your code get in the way of AFK autopilot flying? Would this, in fact, **** off your current customer base? What would it do to mineral prices? What are the other aspects of the game that would be effected? ...?
Bottom line: Are macros a big enough deal to write extra code, inconvenience your current player base and, most importantly increase your revenue? Probably not.
While macros are a bit of a pain, they don't hurt the majority of the player-base in any real, significant way. I mean...how many paying subscribers have quit because of macro miners? I bet that number is pretty small. If CCP finds a way to increase subscriber numbers and remove macros, I have no doubt they will owrk on implementing it.
totally agree here. lots of thinking to be done, and personally im not sure i would ban them if i was the CEO. as i said, they pay the fee, which pays for better server and services.
another thing is that a player which reads the description of a miner in the character creation screen, and decides he likes it better then soldier one, cant hope to make as much mining as the soldier one will make missioning. in fact, when he will ask for advice, he will most likely be told to train for a raven or make a new character ;)
wow had the same choice a few years back. let people complain, or ban.
then warden came out. it didn't ban, it kept records. then, thousands of accounts were banned. i think something along the lines of half of the entire eve player base atm (number of active accounts)
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